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Post by dean on Dec 13, 2008 14:54:26 GMT -8
So I stiffed you out of money Amber? Here is the canceled check I PAID YOU BACK IN AUGUST! Don't lie and say I never paid you.
THE CHECK IMAGE HAS BEEN REMOVED BY ADMIN. DEAN, YOU ARE WELCOME TO RE-POST IT WITH THE DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBER BLACKED OUT. THANKS!
I spent over $2600.00 trying to keep Angel alive. I paid Dr. Emig to come out to you and do her teeth float. I paid for her two emergency calls from Tacoma Equine while she was at your place. I told you to come and get as much hay as needed. I took you and Jess over to Reber and let you buy whatever you needed for her. This included wormer THAT WAS NOT GIVEN TO HER !! That was the first question Dr. Emig asked you. You called Jess and she said she had not wormed her. You had Angel for months and had the wormer. Why the hell wasn't it done? You both went back over to Reber Ranch and charged more stuff a month or so later.
She was never fed a "bucket" of grain. She was fed a small amount of grain to take her ulcer meds in.
BOTH vets agreed on her cause of death. BOTH agreed you were feeding her stemmy hard cheap grain hay. When I loaded her I asked you to bring me some hay to put in the feeder. You brought it up to the trailer and I told you NO. I wouldn't feed that and I put it on the ground next to my trailer. REMEMBER THAT? There was NO GRAIN in her stomach or intestine at the time of her necropsy.
I DID NOT cause that mares death. She was under Vets care 2x a day if not more!
I am sorry for the loss of her as I know how deeply you cared for her. I did my best, as did Dr. Emig and Tacoma Equine to keep her alive.
Her necropsy showed - Ulcers, kidney stones and and a perforated secum. Non of which I caused. That is why horses like her end up at the auction. People do not want the expense of caring for them.
Again Amber, I am so sorry she passed.
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Post by acarlson1980 on Dec 13, 2008 17:26:06 GMT -8
hmm. dean you are lying again. yes you finally paided me only because i had to hound you about it. i put my rent money out for this horse and you told me that you would pay me the next day. i just lost my job so i wish i could have done more. oh and i went directly to your bank and tyred to cash the check but hmm no funds. so i called you and you chuckled like it was no big deal. oh sorry hunny i will put the funds in the account right now. that was what you said to me. then once again i went to your bank and tryed again to cash the check. no funds again. the only reason this check got cashed was because i went to my bank and cashed it. so from there it was up to the banks to fight over the money. and as for angel having an ulcer you knew nothing about this until the necropsy came back so dont try to pull that nuts about feeding her grain. and the first night angel went back to you you turned her out into a field of high toxic tanzys and left. me, jess, tash and rob sat there and watch her go down. we called jude and she is the one who called dr emig out. you sat there and said you were there all night with her you weren't we were. we sat there until 5 in the morning with her. no one ever came out and check on her. and nobody said that dr emig wasnt out. i know d**n well he was. just to tube her and treat her like she was nothing but nuts. there was no reason why she needed to be twitched the way she was. and as far as angel being wormed. she was wormed the day she arrived at jessicas. but didn't you powerpack her dean? um not thinking so. jude says you didn't. and as far as hay every once and a while when you did have hay you told us to come down and get some for angel. but wasnt very often. and we never had the wormer the whole time. we just finally got it from you. how about this i want proof that you knew about her ulcers and kidney stones before she died? then maybe this will make sense to me why you feed her grain. i watched you do it. i still have the bucket in which you feed it.
hhmm i wonder if we call tacome equine if they will tell us that you actually paid them.
now lets see your responce?
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Post by acarlson1980 on Dec 13, 2008 17:50:22 GMT -8
oh also forgot. at rebar ranch you dont have an account there. you are a cash only customer. so nice try about us charging nuts to your account.
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Post by jessiegirl19810 on Dec 13, 2008 18:13:04 GMT -8
You want to get into this thats fine. I am totally ready to blow this all up. I have been quiet about this while you were going through court,although the prosecuter knew it all!!! First of all this mare may have eventually died but you made sure it was a horrible scary death. YOU DID THIS. You want to know how you did this well first off, I only ended up with this mare because your own vet said she was going to die in your care( I have witnesses to this statement) I was unable to take on more horses unless you helped with the bills you said you would pay all of her care so I agreed. You did go to Reber with me and we picked up weight gain and microtek. That is all. In the beginning I did go to your barn for hay then there was NONE. I drove an hour there because you said you had some only to find an empty barn. The few times you answered your phone when this happened you sent me to Reber where your c.c. was ALWAYS declined. You did not buy her probios,her hay pellets, her bran mash,her msm. or her magnesium. My hay is Eastern Washington mixed crested wheat grass which the vet said was just fine. Speaking of the vet thats another whole topic. I begged you for a month to get her teeth done I called just about every day. I called Jude complaining about it and she mostly wished me good luck! I finally was so fed up I blew up on Tash who was so pissed for me she called and read you the riot act, you then had the vet out. Your own vet complemented us on the care Angel had receieved and once again stated she would have died in your care. As for the worming I call BS AGAIN. You told everyone on the phone and on the boards that you powerpacked all those auction horses. I was under that impression when she got to my place but I was concerned about the crappy poo pickup in your pastures so I wormed her along with my farrier who is very well respected and will vouch for this. She also has the receipt. When I got Angel her feet were ridiculous and she was absessing horribly. She was scared and hurting and had been since you took her in. In my barn she learned she would never be hurt, she would always have food and Amber and I always came back to her. She settled down and was happy and loving. She was on pasture all day and stalled at night with a bucket of pellets and vitamins and all the hay she wanted. She was happy and loved. That all changed the night she coliced. Amber and I knew something was wrong the minute we saw her. We stayed with her long into the night while she went thru periods of normalsy and then seemed in pain. I called you right away and asked you what to do. You were great you talked me down and told me to call the vet, I did. The vet came out and gave her treatment and when it came time to pay u wouldnt answer your phone. Amber paid for it from her rent money. When you were told this you said you would pay right away ... you did not. Amber was way late and in trouble by the time she got her money. The next time we called the vet out at your ok you supposedly talked with them and set up payment, well after her care we found out that was not true. I called you over and over with a vet standing there until you finally answered. The vet talked with you and said she would call you back in a minute to get payment. Two days later the vet called me and hadnt received payment.. what a suprise. Then u decided you would come and get her I could do nothing as she was legally your horse. Amber and I followed you down to the barn to make sure she settled in. You had promised me she would be in a stall( she was so hungry she was trying to eat gravel wood etc) when I got there she was in a pasture and the vet was standing there. I walked away for a moment to check on the other horses and came back and u and the vet were gone. Angel had poo'd on the way down and the vet said all was well. Amber and I were not comfortable with this and went to check on Angel. We found tansy growing waist high black water fences falling down and Angel down and rolling. We rushed to her and got her up. I then noticed the fence was down totally in one place and knew a half blind starving horse could not stay in there. We called Jude and she showed up immediately and called Dr Emig back out it was then that we were informed that while you did call him out you wouldnt catch the horse for him to check her over. You vets words not mine. Amber Tash and I stayed with her all that night walking her and keeping her calm. You posted u had been out to check on her that night LIAR!!! You were never there. You posted all about what a great caretaker you were not knowing that one of us was there most of the times you were talking about. She did have an impacted cecum we all knew that we also were told to feed her soupy mash... you didnt not do that. In fact the first night she was there no food was anywhere on the property we had to go to one of your other pastures and scrounge a couple flakes and soak them to feed to her in handfuls as we were told. You were so proud of your self when she kept passing poo... I got news for you that was Amber! She was there every day giving her pellets and bran mash when you were not around. I believe if you had not seen her that last night and thrown out her mash stating" shes not gonna eat this nuts" that horse would have still been alive. She was passing poo until she was fed Omolene to the top of a grain pan. Amber saw you do it and wasnt sure what to do. The next day she was dead. She died alone in pain because of you!!! You threw her out in a pasture with other horses while she was colicing what the hell!!! You never cared for this mare she never received the proper care from you from the very beginning to the end. I know you did have the vet out and you did spend lots of money but see thats what you do. You have vets out and do all this work while you are getting attention for it. Thats how you tricked me. You showed me vet bills for all these horses and I believed you had done all you could for them. What I have since come to realize is you never follow through. You do not follow the vets advice or care recomendations EVER!!!! You never even came to see her when she passed I drove an hour to sit with her in the mud and rain and you couldnt drive 5 minutes. Tash drove over an hour many times to check on her when you couldnt be bothered. It may not be criminal but your lack of compassion for this animal makes me sick and I will never believe it is not your fault EVER!
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Post by acarlson1980 on Dec 13, 2008 19:11:21 GMT -8
oh ya and by the way i want the check taken off the board. this has my personal driver license number on it!!!!!
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Post by acarlson1980 on Dec 13, 2008 22:56:39 GMT -8
and another thing that we forgot to mention. when you got angel home from the auction you told us that dr emig did blood work on angel. once again that was a lie. because you would have found out that she had ulcers from the get go and kidney problems we would have been treating her for ulcers.
also i kind it very funny now that once you are hiding. you did have an account and now you don't. but its a lost cause with you. so now i have said my words to you. and i pray to god you never own another horse. them poor babys. personally you should never own any animal. oh ya i should have reported your dog also for bitting my kid in the face but i didn't. i would have never done that to a friend. i was being nice. you allowed that dog to be around people that was a danger to people and you knew that. but once again i guess i thought you were a friend. but true friends dont lie to each other. i guess i have different morals.
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coco
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Post by coco on Dec 14, 2008 14:56:42 GMT -8
So Dean fed her a WHOLE PAN OF GRAIN, contrary to the vets orders.
Dean, what a piece of work you are.
Dean posts like a sniper. Hiding, shooting off her mouth, then retreating into the bushes again. What a chicken$hit.
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kimc
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Post by kimc on Dec 15, 2008 20:52:15 GMT -8
OMG, that is priceless that you put a rubber check on this board!!!
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Post by 3spottedmares on Dec 15, 2008 21:15:04 GMT -8
It clearly shows that check cleared the bank! Read it.
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kimc
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Post by kimc on Dec 16, 2008 8:47:53 GMT -8
well, 3 spotteds (LOL), i am going off the explanation from acarlson where she said there were no funds twice...so HER bank finally cashed it. one's bank doesnt just cover a bad check, i am sure she ended up paying for it.
while you, i mean dean, is discussing it, what about all the people that ARE still trying to collect from dean...why doesnt she just write THEM checks and post them too?
i sure hope the psychological testing that dean has to go through helps her with the patholigical lying...i get embarrassed when i think of the crap i believed...so outrageous.
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Post by jessiegirl19810 on Dec 16, 2008 13:49:04 GMT -8
Considering I believe Deans horses to be with her friend who is jobless and relies on Dean I believe she is still in control of those horses
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Post by djrepp on Dec 17, 2008 9:17:53 GMT -8
That is correct.
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kimc
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Post by kimc on Dec 17, 2008 17:17:19 GMT -8
all you can do is report what you know...again, i thought KCAC was supposed to be monitoring the whereabouts of the "remaining" horses...
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Post by acarlson1980 on Dec 17, 2008 17:45:41 GMT -8
well look how long it took animal control to deal with it the first time. so dont just leave it up to animal control to figure it out.
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Post by djrepp on Dec 17, 2008 20:59:35 GMT -8
Animal Control is being investigated.
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