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Post by look up on May 5, 2008 17:19:27 GMT -8
There was so much hay there that it was falling out of the rafters when I was there.
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Post by looked up on May 5, 2008 17:22:40 GMT -8
The hay in the hay loft probably belonged to the boarders. They always had more hay than Dean, and less horses.
Oh, lets not forget about the truck load of hay Dean bought last year and then wrote a bad check for. The vendor had to go back out there and load 25 tons of hay back on his truck. At least he got some of his hay back.
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Post by Old Nelly on May 5, 2008 20:12:51 GMT -8
Ya, I guess that's why at todays hearing there were receipts and photo's showing 500 bales of hay a month delivered since last year.
Oh, and they haven't boarded horses there for years. Some QT and that's it.
Another lie from you. Go play elsewhere.
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Post by Guest on May 6, 2008 9:21:46 GMT -8
Ya, I guess that's why at todays hearing there were receipts and photo's showing 500 bales of hay a month delivered since last year. Oh, and they haven't boarded horses there for years. Some QT and that's it. Another lie from you. Go play elsewhere. Too bad you were not this active and motivated at PEC - maybe then the horses would not have been NEGLECTED and living in FILTH! Maybe, just maybe, those of you who are such staunch supporters, had donated any of your time there instead of defendding her on the boards, all this might NOT have happened. Maybe you guys may have made a difference at the barn... maybe |
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Post by sadsituation on May 6, 2008 9:36:56 GMT -8
I know someone who had 45 horses that ate 500 bales of hay a month, and those horses were fat as pigs. Didn't PEC have almost a hundred eating that much hay?
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Post by aguest on May 6, 2008 11:07:17 GMT -8
So were these bales of alfalfa or little bales of local hay ? The average is about one bale of alfalfa per horse per week, Give or take. Going on that formula ,45 horses would only eat about 180 bales a month and be well fed. No way could you go thru 500 bales of alfalfa with 45 head in one month !!  ;D |
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Post by sadsituation on May 6, 2008 11:56:20 GMT -8
So were these bales of alfalfa or little bales of local hay ? The average is about one bale of alfalfa per horse per week, Give or take. Going on that formula ,45 horses would only eat about 180 bales a month and be well fed. No way could you go thru 500 bales of alfalfa with 45 head in one month !! ;D These were large bales of eastern alfalfa and mix. A horse will go through about 1.5-2 bales of alfalfa a week. 45 horses would go through a 1/3 of a bale per day at 16 per day, or 500 per month. |
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Post by horsewatcher on May 6, 2008 12:19:36 GMT -8
Lies lies and more lies from Dean. She has been out of hay too many times to count in the past two years. She HAS had boarders right up until KCAC made her surrender the last horses in Feb. VP of Exceller...Hello boarder. I at one time unfortunately boarded there and yes within the last two years. What a hell whole. I have never seen someone own SO many horses and do absolutely nothing for them except sit in her house and hide. She didnt even feed them when there was food there. I think she was afraid she would burn off some of that a$$ of hers!
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Post by aguest on May 6, 2008 15:44:40 GMT -8
Okay, I will grant that some horses eat more than one bale a week. Personally I have older thoroughbreds and they do take a bit more food than average. But no way could I see them eating the equivelent your post suggests.
I used my calculator and going on the max. you suggested of two bales per horse per week I only come up with 360 bales used per month for 45 head.................. ;D
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Post by galaxy on May 6, 2008 18:31:17 GMT -8
I feed Orchard grass because I have Draft horses and during the winter I was feeding 4-80 lb bales per day- that is 120 bales of hay per month. 4 draft or Draft cross and 5 regular horses were being fed.
Now I am feeding 4 Drafts/cross and 1 regular horse and am feeding 2 bales per day or 60 bales per month.
It all depends on the horses, what type of hay, and how much the bales weigh. I have seen bales of hay as small as 50 lbs.
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Post by aguest on May 6, 2008 18:58:01 GMT -8
Very true Galaxy. Since sadsituation said they were lg. bales of alf/grass from eastern wa. I'm figuring they would run anywhere from 95 to 110 lbs. pr bale. The ones I get are about 100 lb. ea. And I was going on the fact that most of the horses would not be of draft breeding.  |
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Post by Moroccos Ghost on May 7, 2008 11:54:36 GMT -8
Boarders from 2006-2007 have given multiple statements to AC. She did have at least some....
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Post by sadsituation on May 7, 2008 16:01:21 GMT -8
Okay, I will grant that some horses eat more than one bale a week. Personally I have older thoroughbreds and they do take a bit more food than average. But no way could I see them eating the equivelent your post suggests. I used my calculator and going on the max. you suggested of two bales per horse per week I only come up with 360 bales used per month for 45 head.................. ;D Only 2 bales per week would be 405 for 4.5 weeks or 30-31 days for 45 horses. Actually these folks had more like 48-53 horses but the average was 45. You cannot feed Tb horses a 100# of hay per week or one bale. Also when you are feeding large groups of horses that are out together, you need to feed extra to make sure all horses in the group get a proper amount. 1/3 bale of hay per day is not an unusually large amount of hay for horses in a large group, that is about 25-30# of hay per horse per day. The bottom line is that ANY WAY you slice it, 500 bales of hay is not enough to properly feed 90+ horses and with some of them needing to put weight on they would require MORE feed than maintaining a normal horse. |
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Post by aguest on May 8, 2008 0:02:18 GMT -8
Ah, now I see why our figures are differing. I figured by 4 weeks and you went by 30-31 days. I do agree , w/ a large group you do need to feed extra to be sure of everyone getting enough. I have TB's and some of them just don't eat that much hay while other do. One in particular only eats two flake per day. More than that and she wastes it terribly. Yet she's fat and healthy. Just goes to show what distinct individuals horses can be......  |
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Post by Slew on May 8, 2008 4:53:19 GMT -8
I don't know who you are Jerry and really I don't even care.
I hold the fundraiser for SAFE......I get the items donated, I spend my time and a lot of my own money.
The Cam and Carrie Reeves package was graciously donated by The Jones Farm and The Reeves.
It was bid on by SAFE for a SAFE horse. It was never used by a SAFE member nor a board of director's horse.
Many of SAFE's horse need to go to training and Cam Reeves is exceptional.......I have sent many of my own horses there.
Perhaps you cannot read well and you are confused?
One of my own rescue horses was recently at the Jones Farm with Cam and Carrie, but it was paid for by me. Anyone care to see the receipts?
The donated package has yet to be used but is on the schedule for Jack (SAFE horse) for June.
How dare you make such accusations when you don't have the real information?
Why don't you publicly identify yourself Jerry? what a jerk you are. If I happen to know you, call me so I can set you straight. Not only is this insulting to SAFE, but very insulting to me.
If anyone would like the Jones Farm address to check this out.....ask me, or heck I will give you their phone number. No one has anything to hide.
Except Jerry and his/her name.
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