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Post by forthem on Dec 3, 2008 11:14:52 GMT -8
Dean as I know you are not willing to be open on the RO bb maybe you will here? You can't ban here. Can you or will you ever apologize to the bb for you misleading so many? Are you going to apologize to the rescues that saved the horses you where neglecting? Are you going to pay $ for the damages you have caused by your blindness? I hope you never have the privilege of owning a horse or any living soul again .
With all the knowledge you have about horses you could have saved so many and lead the way for others to help, instead you became part of the problem and caused horse to have that look in there eyes....lost and helpless..... Sham on you Dean for there suffering......when you could have made that look go way, ........ you caused it!!!!
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Post by kimc on Dec 3, 2008 20:06:31 GMT -8
not to be a downer, forthem, but people have been asking these questions for years and they always fall on deaf ears. the response is always a lie followed up by a threat of a lawsuit. so many people relied on the internet and never bothered to do their homework before they came to her defense. it was like there was this "cyberPEC", a place that dean created in her mind and described on the internet but never really existed because the physical PEC was, well...i would describe it as hell for horses. the things she said she did for them were things that were SUPPOSED to be done for rescue horses....the little detail that the horses never received those things was so easy leave out.
so, i really dont think she will EVER take responsibility for the suffering even tho there was a canned "statement" that i am sure was written by her attorney to attempt to pacify those who havent LIVED through rehabbing a PEC horse.
what i dont understand is the extensive list of lawsuits against dean yet people think she STOPS when it comes to the horses??? remember morocco? people fighting to get paid back for hay? the poor old lady that got her property trashed because the 4 horses she agreed to let dean put in her field quickly became 23, 24 ...the flimsy little costco plastic shelter she put up to get AC off her back (shelter?) is still flipped upside down in a heap in the old ladies field...dean never even bothered to go get it...just destroy the fencing and the field and move on...take no responsibility....
i really dont think the slap on the wrist that she is going to receive will slow her down one bit...she has never complied to anything handed down before...why would she start now???
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Post by forthem on Dec 3, 2008 20:24:24 GMT -8
makes me so sick that some still think she's being picked on, when will they wake up???
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Post by kimc on Dec 3, 2008 20:46:57 GMT -8
i know i am going to make myself a big ole target here but may i point out that she is now begging people to take 7 horses (tash listed them on the safe board) 2 days before she goes in front of the judge...lets see, we kill ourselves rehabbing horses she neglected and weathered the abuse we got from her supporters and still do...yet, now people need to come to her aid? and clean up her mess, quick, before dad comes home or the judge sits down at his bench. i have seen and heard many people offering to take those horses for months...i guess now she will answer her phone or show up when they make an appt to see the horses, ya know, now that her SENTENCING FOR 4 COUNTS OF ANIMAL CRUELTY is 2 days away.... tash, i will not argue with you...and no, i dont want anything bad to happen to the horses she has left and yes, of course i want the horses to find great homes...i am just tired, plain tired of her bullnuts and manipulation. she has used these horses shamelessly to thingy people around and now she is begging (yes, the way they are being "offered" now sounds like beggin) to be bailed out...i hope the timeline of when she finally gave the horses up is pointed out at the sentencing...
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Post by TashGaia on Dec 3, 2008 20:54:31 GMT -8
Nothing to argue about. I just don't want to see these horses go through auction.
I have seen no one offer to take any of these horses. Please point me to where they offered so that I can contact them directly and see if they still want one.
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Post by acarlson1980 on Dec 3, 2008 21:19:23 GMT -8
ya this is about cleaning up deans mess but not really. tash is asking for people to help out these horses. if not hopefully someone at the auction will pick them up. hopefully not a kb. so everyone needs to put there feelings aside and help out the horses. remeber you guys are all about getting the horses away from her now step up to the plate and help get them a home. i know that not everyone can help. but everyone know someone who might be able to help. i just hope and pray that they dont go kb. we are the voice of the horses.
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Post by djrepp on Dec 4, 2008 0:21:31 GMT -8
She had an offer to take the PEC horses, and she rebuffed it because I wanted AC to accompany the woman who was taking them so that there would be an official present during the transaction. They are her horses and she can do with them what she chooses. Diane
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Post by forthem on Dec 4, 2008 8:12:41 GMT -8
why? so she can go get more, .....oh wait she won't ......her friends will save some and they'll HELP her with them...again... and we start all over again...again...STOP HELPING HER !
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Post by forthem on Dec 4, 2008 8:20:50 GMT -8
just maybe if she sends 1 through the auction maybe then some will see that she is not about the horses , it's about the control the horses gives her.
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Post by acarlson1980 on Dec 5, 2008 14:14:07 GMT -8
forthem- why would you say something like that? that is just plain stupid. i know for d**n well that she wouldn't send a single horse thru there.
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Post by forthem on Dec 5, 2008 21:11:01 GMT -8
we never thought she would be in court, so never say never......
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Post by acarlson1980 on Dec 6, 2008 13:43:18 GMT -8
now she has had her day in court. and she cant keep any horses. but i dont trust it. somehow she will keep the horses. but not legally. i know she has a really close friend that she has been giving them to. but this friend has no job and live with her. hhhmmm. let me guess what that means.
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Post by kimc on Dec 6, 2008 14:06:02 GMT -8
AC is supposed to be monitoring where and to whom the horses went/go to. i dont think anyone trusts that she will comply with anything handed down. she was so quick to jump on the boards last nite and post away...never missed a beat, business as usual i guess...
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Post by biggirlpants on Dec 10, 2008 10:02:59 GMT -8
I don't think Dean will EVER reform, or feel remorse, or admit to her wrongdoings. IMO, she is a hoarder with sociopathic tendencies.
Check the criteria out and decide for yourself:
Glibness and Superficial Charm -
Manipulative and Conning They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
Pathological Lying Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way. [NOTE: My experience has been that sociopaths will use fake remorse to continue to manipulate]
Shallow Emotions When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
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Post by kimc on Dec 10, 2008 13:16:05 GMT -8
wow, did anyone see the fuglyhorse blog today?
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